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Penguins Preview (2022-23): the Centers

Well our Boys of Winter open training camp today. So, to celebrate the return of hockey, after another way too early playoff exit, I figured a series of preview posts could be a good idea to catch people up with the changes that occurred to our Pittsburgh Penguins this off-season.

If you haven’t guessed by now, I can be a bit methodical, so let’s start with the team’s Centers. There are a couple of new faces in camp, but Coach Mike Sullivan has his same top 4 pivots returning from last season.

PlayerNoSht.HgtWgt.DoBAge2021-22 ClubGPGAPtsPIM
Blueger, Teddy53L72”185lbs8/15/9428Pittsburgh (NHL)659192810
Carter, Jeff77R75”219 lbs1/1/8537Pittsburgh (NHL)7619264538
Crosby, Sidney87L71”200 lbs8/7/8735Pittsburgh (NHL)6931538432
Frasca, Jordan46L74”183lbs7/5/0121Kingston (OHL)6142458730
Houde, Sam39L72”172lbs3/8/0022Wilkes Barre – Scranton (AHL)191566
Wheeling (ECHL)3113304338
Malkin, Evgeni71L75”195lbs7/31/8636Pittsburgh (NHL)4120224224
Poehling, Ryan25L74”196lbs1/3/9923Montreal (NHL)5798176
Laval (AHL)73360
Players Listed as Centers at Penguins Training Camp

There was some speculation as to whether our Penguins would have all 4 of their Centers return for the start of another season. Evgeni Malkin was an Unrestricted Free Agent (UFA) going into the off-season and even though he hinted that he would want to return and retire a Penguin, there were some bumpy roads during the negotiations. However, GM Ron Hextall managed to get them all back and at team friendly prices.

There is some good news and some bad news with the team returning with the same 4 Centers that manned that position last season. On the plus side, looking at the table below, during 5 on 5 conditions, over the last three seasons all 4 of returning pivots can contribute to the team offensively, in terms of Goals (G), Points (PTs), and Shots on Goal (SOG) per 60 minutes of ice time. Perhaps more importantly is that all are on the positive side of the Goals For (GF)/Goals Against (GA).

(I used a three-year average to eliminate any anomalies)

Even though some fans would have liked to see Malkin gone his personal offensive production 5 on 5 has been better than our Captain’s (Sidney Crosby). And although his defensive numbers in terms of GF vs GA isn’t close to Crosby’s numbers, it is still on the positive side of that ratio and it isn’t the worst of the returnees GF%.

Now for the bad news; a quick look at ages tells anyone looking critically at our roster, our Centers are old (hockey old, not regular population old). The average age of our top 4 pivots entering camp is 34 years.

Why is that important tOR? Let’s look at that table again. I included a ratio of Games Played (GP) versus Team Games (TG) played.

PlayerTGGPGP/TGG/60A/60Pts/60SOG/60S%GF%
Blueger, Teddy20717785.5%0.540.921.465.649.6253.69%
Carter, Jeff20819091.3%0.960.711.679.879.8745.85%
Crosby, Sidney20716565.4%0.831.372.207.5610.9456.56%
Malkin, Evgeni20712951.1%0.961.722.697.2313.0051.87%
Penguins’ Centers 5 on 5 stats per 60 minutes, last three seasons average

These 4 skaters have accumulated a lot of man games missed. If we multiply those percentages against an 82-game schedule, Teddy Blueger will play 70 games this season, Jeff Carter – 75 games, Crosby – 65, and Malkin – 51. Now I don’t expect those percentages to play out quite that bad, hopefully, after their surgeries, Crosby and Malkin will not miss quite that many games. If they did that would represent 78-man games lost at Center. However, I would still expect to see in and around 40 – 50 man-games lost at Center, particularly if Sullivan continues to allow opponents to take liberties with our players.

With the realization that our Penguins will have many games lost at Center, the question now becomes who will fill in when one of the top 4 goes down to injury?

My guess is that Hextall signed Ryan Poehling for that inevitability. Maybe. Anything is possible. The lackluster of a season he had last season may be due to how bad the entire Montreal Canadiens team played. But, then again, maybe he was part of the reason for that race to grab the number 1 overall Draft Pick.

Personally, I am hoping Jordan Frasca will have a stunning first half of an AHL season, much like Jake Guentzel has in his first pro appearance. I didn’t see or hear much about him during Rookie Camp, but from the Game films that I watched of him, I am hoping his game translates well into the pro level.

I am not going to hold my breath though.

Sam Houde is not signed to a Penguins contract. He is just an invitee to camp. He needs to first earn an Entry Level Contract (ELC) before his name can be tossed into the hat.

If I were a betting man though, I think the laws of probability would suggest that with the number of players listed as Left Wings (LW) that can also play Center, the next man up line should start with Drew O’Connor, Radim Zohorna, or even Sam Poulin, after his Rookie Camp performance.

Predictions

As it stands right now I expect Crosby to still Center the top line. Skating with at least Guentzel and either Bryan Rust or Rickard Rakell I don’t see any slowing down of our Captain. He should still finish the season with somewhere around 30 G and 90 points.

Malkin will still pivot the second line. With the dearth of likely LWs for Malkin, I don’t see the big man maximaizing his ice time. I still see him getting his share of Gs and Pts but nothing compared to the potential that would be there with right line mates. In the back of my mind, I wonder how the second line would look with Rakell or Rust (whichever one isn’t playing with Crosby) flips to LW and putting Valterri Puustenin or Nathan Légaré on the Right Wing (RW).

I doubt Malkin wil play 82 games but I would think that even without the right line mates he will be on pace for a 40 G pace for an 82 GP season and be between 80 and 90 pts for that 82 GP. With the proper line mates I can see him easily putting up numbers higher than that.

Expect Carter to man the third line. Mind you, I would not get too upset to see Blueger get a little third line time at all but Carter will more than likely get that nod. Carter has shown over the last 3 seasons that he is still very durable and can still find the back of the net. He should still hover around a 20 G pace.

I do have concerns about his overall play though, after the last playoff season.

Finally, Blueger will anchor the 4th line. Given the limited ice time the fourth line gets and the higher defensive zone starts they tend to get, I don’t see him netting 20 G or 4 Pts, but he has been slowly raising his own bar season after season and at 28 he is at his prime.

The Other Rick

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  • Great job Coach.
    Interesting read.
    I too would like to see Blueger move full time to the third line center and move Carter to the wing. I know that will not make me popular with the rest of the guys,but for me Carter is the only one of maybe two big bodies we have that shows he can dish it out if he has to. We don't have a problem at center...We need wingers !!! Big snarly ones with talent.
    You know how I feel about Zucker , and for all I care move him to the fourth line and he can be the highest paid fourth line left winger in the league.( haha)
    It is time to let some kids play!!! . Otherwise we are are just a rehash of the same old with maybe a slight improvement in defense....But not game changers as they say.
    Hockey Season is almost here....
    Cheers
    Jim

    • Thanks Jim,

      I Don't have any problem with moving Carter to Wing, if that Could help. Zohorna - Malkin - Carter actually made a really strong line last season - for one game, and then Sullivan just tossed it aside. I would also like to see them put a big guy on the powerplay and park him in front of the Goalie to take the Goalies eyes away and tie up at least 1 if not 2 D-men.

      Unfortunately, Carter got hurt today, in a scrimmage. I haven't had a chance to find out how bad.

      They say Zucker is a good locker room guy and he has put up numbers before coming to Pgh, but since he has been here, he really hasn't done much. Every time I see him, I just think David Perron. He couldn't do anything here, but lit it up elsewhere.

      I honestly fear there will be no change. I fear that the same old worn out formula will be rolled over into opening night 2022-23. After a great Prospect Challenge performance, Legare has already been dismissed by our Coach. He has talked about and praised anyone else he could find but not Legare. The kid could walk on water but it looks like Sullivan's allergy to physical play has relegated Legare to not even getting a look.

      It really must gall our Coach to have seen so many other people praise the kid for his play a week ago.

      • That is a really good point Coach, but honestly by Sullivan's actions over the years I do not think he gives a HOOT what other people think.It is HIS WAY or NO WAY.
        That is so strange to me. He is so one dimensional in his thinking. If I hear the phrase"play the right way this year I am going to throw up."
        Cheers

        • Amen Jim,

          I too am sick of "play the right way" and to a lesser degree "next man up".
          To me "Play the right way" means knock someone on their wallet when they invade your crease or attack your zone, and set up camp in front of the other teams Goalie. When teams do that, they may still have to worry about the "next man up" but nowhere near as often, because the other team is going to having to worry about that more.

  • Hey Other Rick,

    Great stuff! Thank you so much for doing this. As I mentioned during our conversation, my attention's presently being drawn off by another project, so I really appreciate you jumping in. Plus, I always look forward to your evaluations. Always candid, insightful and entertaining.

    Agree that I wouldn't mind seeing Blueger get some time on the third line. I think he has a bit of an upside offensively that hasn't been tapped. But it's hard to envision Carter in a fourth-line role. On second thought...maybe it isn't. Big guy, takes the puck and drives to the net. Perhaps a reduced workload would work well for him, given his age.

    Rick

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